2010 Persimmon Homes Blog

Archive for the ‘Charles Church’ Category

Charles Church, part of Persimmon Group plc, has a history of noisy, unlevel or bouncy floors dating back to the 1990’s. In this Telegraph article concerning Clearwater Place in Surrey, a Charles Church development of 46 town houses and apartments, the article says “Floors throughout the development were found to be dropping, creaking and off-level“.

Put simply, the advice given to us from engineers when designing and constructing a new home, was to upgrade from the cheapest joists spaced at the furthest distance. Out of over 25 new homes we have recently viewed, only 1 had floors without these problems. Looking at pre-owned homes built in the last 10 years, the floor problems had developed (with passage of time and foot traffic) to be even worse than we’d expected.

If you have purchased a new home from Persimmon Homes, or Charles Church, you can find information and advice from other home owners and experts on snagging etc. at www.Snagging.org and at the forums.

I read an interesting (and I felt typical) view of the problems with buying a new home from Charles Church at the Charles Church and Persimmon Homes Owners Forum.

Definately get everything in writing, and then from our experience expect a lengthy fight trying to get them to honour. For the things you don’t have in writing it might be best to chalk those up to experience, having seen first hand what Charles Church spoken ‘word’ is worth.

We see quality of contruction and customer service as the biggest and continuing problems with Charles Church. We found poor customer service and low quality of workmanship to be a repreated theme throughout our years trying to persuade Charles Church to do the right thing and honour their warranty.

One internet site, titled ‘Charles Church Sucks’ , lists issues with a new home from Charles Church, with the site poster stating problems ‘left me disillusioned and furious’. His advice was to ‘think twice’ before buying a new home from Charles Church.

We can fully relate to the upset Charles Church quality problems and poor customer service have caused us to feel. How many years before the simple and complicated problems they left are fixed. From a simple leak to the major work they need to undertake, years have passed and progress is very tardy, if even existent.

Residents are reported to be upset with Charles Church regarding preservation order on trees they have taken down.

More complaints regarding the NHBC, only this time it’s not Charles Church or Persimmon Homes, but Redrow.

The comments from Sarah Hamilton, a spokeswoman for the National House Building Council, are we found typical of the response NHBC gives, which makes it harder to pursue a claim because of the inability to acknowledge and get to the bottom of a problem. Follow this link to read more about a Redrow new home and the NHBC in this Telegraph Article on NHBC and Redrow Home.

We are still waiting for Charles Church (a division of Persimmon Group plc) to do the right thing. So far the NHBC has in our view been useless as well.

It’s been over 4.5 years and still we are waiting, dispute numerous assurances, which have turned out to be nothing buy empty promises.

But the leaks are the smaller issues, the substandard construction of the floor is a much bigger concern to us, and still years after reporting the issues (and Charles Church continuing to build new homes with similar defects) we are still waiting for a proper investigation, and thus for the hope of a fix so we might one day be able to sell the home, which we originally thought would be a safe investment – how wrong we were.



  • Bob: Perhaps the New Home Builders are enjoying the econmic climate a bit TOO MUCH :(
  • M. Farley: Walked around a new Charles Church Show Home last week, and found same issues discussed above, noisy bouncy floors. when will they fix this? From read
  • Debbie Brown: Neat idea! Can't beat something that makes cake easier to eat and carry.