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		<title>How Might Persimmon and NHBC Work Together</title>
		<link>http://tony1899.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/how-might-persimmon-and-nhbc-work-together/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 08:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An interesting post one found when searching for customer reviews on Charles Church and Persimmon Homes, using google. I was also interested in NHBC and how they work with the builder on &#8216;raising standards&#8217; and &#8216;protecting consumers&#8217;.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=tony1899.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8949896&amp;post=373&amp;subd=tony1899&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting post one found when searching for <a title="Customer Complaints, Persimmonh Homes, NHBC, see also Charles Church" href="http://forum.snagging.org/nhbc/540-nhbc-forum.html" target="_blank">customer reviews on Charles Church and Persimmon Homes</a>, using google. I was also interested in NHBC and how they work with the builder on &#8216;raising standards&#8217; and &#8216;protecting consumers&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Block and Beam Flooring Regulations</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 12:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found an interesting post on Block and Beam Flooring Regulations, and other factors (including sound proofing and regulations) troubling a new home owner. They have been pursuing issues with the builder directly and with NHBC. An interesting if not untypical read.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=tony1899.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8949896&amp;post=368&amp;subd=tony1899&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found an interesting post on <a title="New Home Problems, Block and Beam Flooring, Sound Insulation, NHBC" href="http://whatconsumer.co.uk/forum/builders/766-block-beam-floor-building-regs.html" target="_blank">Block and Beam Flooring Regulations</a>, and other factors (including <a title="Sound Proofing, Robust Standards, NHBC Sound Testing" href="http://whatconsumer.co.uk/forum/builders/766-block-beam-floor-building-regs.html" target="_blank">sound proofing and regulations</a>) troubling a new home owner. They have been pursuing issues with the builder directly and with NHBC. An interesting if not untypical read.</p>
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		<title>Another Bad Experience with Charles Church</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read an interesting (and I felt typical) view of the problems with buying a new home from Charles Church at the Charles Church and Persimmon Homes Owners Forum. Definately get everything in writing, and then from our experience expect a lengthy fight trying to get them to honour. For the things you don&#8217;t have [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=tony1899.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8949896&amp;post=360&amp;subd=tony1899&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read an interesting (and I felt typical) view of the problems with <a title="Problems and Stress Buying a New Home from Charles Church" href="http://charles-church.org.uk/read.php?4,182,182#msg-182" target="_blank">buying a new home from Charles Church</a> at the Charles Church and Persimmon Homes Owners Forum.</p>
<p>Definately get everything in writing, and then from our experience expect a lengthy fight trying to get them to honour. For the things you don&#8217;t have in writing it might be best to chalk those up to experience, having seen first hand what Charles Church spoken &#8216;word&#8217; is worth.</p>
<p>We see quality of contruction and customer service as the biggest and continuing problems with Charles Church. We found poor customer service and low quality of workmanship to be a repreated theme throughout our years trying to persuade Charles Church to do the right thing and honour their warranty.</p>
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		<title>Couldn&#8217;t Agree More Regarding Charles Church Quality and Service</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One internet site, titled &#8216;Charles Church Sucks&#8217; , lists issues with a new home from Charles Church, with the site poster stating problems &#8216;left me disillusioned and furious&#8217;. His advice was to &#8216;think twice&#8217; before buying a new home from Charles Church. We can fully relate to the upset Charles Church quality problems and poor [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=tony1899.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8949896&amp;post=357&amp;subd=tony1899&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One internet site, titled <a title="Charles Church Sucks, host of problems with Charles Church, part of Persimmon Group plc" href="http://www.webspawner.com/users/charleschurchsucks/" target="_blank">&#8216;Charles Church Sucks&#8217; </a>, lists issues with a new home from Charles Church, with the site poster stating problems &#8216;left me disillusioned and furious&#8217;. His advice was to &#8216;think twice&#8217; before buying a new home from Charles Church.</p>
<p>We can fully relate to the upset Charles Church quality problems and poor customer service have caused us to feel. How many years before the simple and complicated problems they left are fixed. From a simple leak to the major work they need to undertake, years have passed and progress is very tardy, if even existent.</p>
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		<title>Residents Upset With Charles Church</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Residents are reported to be upset with Charles Church regarding preservation order on trees they have taken down.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=tony1899.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8949896&amp;post=364&amp;subd=tony1899&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="Charles Church, trees with preservation orders" href="http://www.morpethherald.co.uk/news/local-news/developer_is_not_in_breach_1_2623258" target="_blank">Residents are reported to be upset with Charles Church </a>regarding preservation order on trees they have taken down.</p>
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		<title>NHBC Complaints, but is the response any use for a new home owner</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 13:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More complaints regarding the NHBC, only this time it&#8217;s not Charles Church or Persimmon Homes, but Redrow. The comments from Sarah Hamilton, a spokeswoman for the National House Building Council, are we found typical of the response NHBC gives, which makes it harder to pursue a claim because of the inability to acknowledge and get [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=tony1899.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8949896&amp;post=343&amp;subd=tony1899&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More complaints regarding the NHBC, only this time it&#8217;s not Charles Church or Persimmon Homes, but Redrow.</p>
<p>The comments from Sarah Hamilton, a spokeswoman for the National House Building Council, are we found typical of the response NHBC gives, which makes it harder to pursue a claim because of the inability to acknowledge and get to the bottom of a problem. Follow this link to read more about a Redrow new home and the NHBC in this <a title="Not just Persimmon Group plc, NHBC and Redrow Customer Problems and Complaints with New Homes" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/propertyadvice/3322966/My-property-nightmare-flawed-new-house.html" target="_blank">Telegraph Article on NHBC and Redrow Home</a>.</p>
<p>We are still waiting for Charles Church (a division of Persimmon Group plc) to do the right thing. So far the NHBC has in our view been useless as well.</p>
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		<title>Will Charles Church Ever Fix A Leak?</title>
		<link>http://tony1899.wordpress.com/2010/09/17/will-charles-church-ever-fix-a-leak/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s been over 4.5 years and still we are waiting, dispute numerous assurances, which have turned out to be nothing buy empty promises. But the leaks are the smaller issues, the substandard construction of the floor is a much bigger concern to us, and still years after reporting the issues (and Charles Church continuing to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=tony1899.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8949896&amp;post=340&amp;subd=tony1899&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been over 4.5 years and still we are waiting, dispute numerous assurances, which have turned out to be nothing buy empty promises.</p>
<p>But the leaks are the smaller issues, the substandard construction of the floor is a much bigger concern to us, and still years after reporting the issues (and Charles Church continuing to build new homes with similar defects) we are still waiting for a proper investigation, and thus for the hope of a fix so we might one day be able to sell the home, which we originally thought would be a safe investment &#8211; how wrong we were.</p>
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		<title>Over 4 Years To Fix a Leak</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 07:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charles Church is still delaying, with no end in sight. It&#8217;s one excuse for yet more delay after another, with no actual work and no actual solutions. Appears to us they knew all along that the works to fix our new home would be more than they were willing to spend (although they won&#8217;t even spend [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=tony1899.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8949896&amp;post=334&amp;subd=tony1899&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles Church is still delaying, with no end in sight. It&#8217;s one excuse for yet more delay after another, with no actual work and no actual solutions. Appears to us they knew all along that the works to fix our new home would be more than they were willing to spend (although they won&#8217;t even spend the money to fix a leak at the moment) and thus the are delaying to soon hope the possible legal claim would be time barred (this seem very standard to me).</p>
<p>Poor standards, failing customer service, lowest specification, Charles Church (the luxury arm within Persimmon Group plc, which also includes Persimmon New Homes) appears the norm, and even at the top of the company they appear to be all too aware, and all too keen to be seen to do nothing to resolve such issues. They&#8217;ve been caught out and now denial appears their chosen defence and tactic.</p>
<p>Much as <a title="Charles Church, staff, management and directors denials" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial" target="_blank">Sigmund Freud defines denial </a>as a defense mechanism, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence.</p>
<p>The fact of so many customer complaints and so many unhappy customer experiences is the real problem with the Persimmon Group plc, and if they can&#8217;t fix a leak how can they ever fix all the other issues with the company and it&#8217;s products (new homes).</p>
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		<title>How to Measure Floor Levels &#8211; if you suspect unlevel floors in your new home</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you suspect you have unlevel floors in your new Persimmon Homes or Charles Church home, you can use various devices to check and measure the levels, height variation, rises and slopes. Self levelling laser levels are cheap and work very well. Albeit, it does mean getting down on the floor and using line of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=tony1899.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8949896&amp;post=325&amp;subd=tony1899&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you suspect you have <a title="How to measure unlevel floors in new home" href="http://www.akwamasta.co.uk/index.htm" target="_blank">unlevel floors in your new Persimmon Homes or Charles Church home</a>, you can use various devices to check and measure the levels, height variation, rises and slopes.</p>
<p>Self levelling laser levels are cheap and work very well. Albeit, it does mean getting down on the floor and using line of sight. These can be relatively easily calibrated, by opening the device and adding small pieces of sticky tape onto the swinging pendulum to level it. If you take two measure ments, in both directions of the same points, you can work out the devices error, and then recalibrate to get within 1mm.</p>
<p>You can also use a spirit level, which should be minimum of 2m.</p>
<p>However the best device by far is a water level, sometimes known as a pro level, and sometime (wrongly) called a manometer water level. These are very quick, very accurate and importantly do not need line of sight to measure. Hence they are unobtrusive being able to measure in and around small spaces, without disturbing furniture etc. The best source in the UK is <a title="Water Level to measure unlevel floor levels in new homes" href="http://www.akwamasta.co.uk/index.htm" target="_blank">Akwamasta Water Level</a>, from Bevan Products. For only £66 delivered this is an excellent product, which makes measuring your floor levels very quick and easy. Indeed it&#8217;s the same device you can find NHBC engineers using to measure unlevel floors in new homes from the Persimmon Group plc.</p>
<p>The <a title="Akwamasta Water Level Uneven Unlevel Floor Measurement and checking levels" href="http://www.akwamasta.co.uk/index.htm" target="_blank">Akwamasta Water Level Floor Measurement Device </a>has a cm scale, which can read measurement to 1mm. It has a 1m staff, which you could cut down if you need to measure under low shelfs. However for most open floor areas it is fine as it is.</p>
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		<title>Our Commitment by Charles Church</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;From the moment you reserve your new Charles Church home, we pledge to take care of you every step of the way.&#8221; &#8211; taken from their website. As an unfortunate victim of Charles Church, for over 4 years now, I can safefly say the above statement couldn&#8217;t be further from the truth. Charles Church customer [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=tony1899.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8949896&amp;post=322&amp;subd=tony1899&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;From the moment you reserve your new Charles Church home, we pledge to take care of you every step of the way.&#8221; &#8211; taken from their website.</p>
<p>As an unfortunate victim of Charles Church, for over 4 years now, I can safefly say the above statement couldn&#8217;t be further from the truth. Charles Church customer service is appalling, and I doubt they could cause more inconvenience, anxiety or stress if they deliberately tried (although I already think much of it is deliberate on their part).</p>
<p>4 years to fix a leaking toilet &#8211; not that it&#8217;s fixed yet &#8211; surely they couldn&#8217;t do any worse. Well actually they could, last visit (yet another repeat) when they came in to assess the toilet they flooded the bathroom with a cistern full of water from the toilets flush resevoir. Nice one Charles Church, great to see that same attention to detail consistent throughout the design, construction and customer care stages.</p>
<p>How we wish we had never seen the house. When will the nightmare end?</p>
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